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djoedjoer berboedi loehoer
i wanna ask to u all
do u feel your english has good enough for going abroad
?
ai.Luvie
i think its depend to what country that we want to go.
is you want to go to east asian likes japan, taiwan, china, korea or some europe country like france, east europe, etc
i think you don't really need an excellent english to communicate.
Its because they can't speak english fluently, and their english really really awful..
That if you just want to go as a tourist or maybe to have a bussines trip, then you'll feel that your english is excellent..
compare to the local.. HeHe.gif

But for answering your question, i do feel my english good enough to communicate..
Pede mode : ON! HeHe.gif HeHe.gif
Meguchi
hohohohooh, I think my english is just fine
I feel confident for it
but I have one problem in hearing
I can not hear wht ppl say clearly

some friends of mine told me that I'm deaf TalkingEarOff.gif lol
den aja
for now i'm nor very confident..
i have bad prounciation and for grammatical.
sometimes i think and have a plan to improve for my english pronoucition.. but until now i can't find the best methode for..
maybe bro and sis have some solution ??
djoedjoer berboedi loehoer
@ai.luvie
@meguchi
splended,your english perfect.i can see that both of u have become an active learner

@den aja
sorry dear,u got work on that language
what is this,a little mess up.it's slippery when we're talking dear not as easy when we're listening or writing
QUOTE
sometimes i think and have a plan to improve for my english pronoucition..
ai.Luvie
QUOTE (djoedjoer berboedi loehoer @ May 14 2009, 07:20 PM) *
@ai.luvie
@meguchi
splended,your english perfect.i can see that both of u have become an active learner

active learner? not really.. but sometimes i have to makes report in english.. and it makes me insane.. Cry.gif
my english not that perfect.. my grammar's really awful.. Blush.gif chaong.gif
but i'm trying to improve my english. happy.gif


QUOTE (djoedjoer berboedi loehoer @ May 14 2009, 07:20 PM) *
@den aja
sorry dear,u got work on that language
what is this,a little mess up.it's slippery when we're talking dear not as easy when we're listening or writing
QUOTE
sometimes i think and have a plan to improve for my english pronoucition..



maybe his meaning is that he is sometimes (or many times??) considering to improve his english pronounciation, and then making a plan to improve his english.. i got the meaning actually.. HeHe.gif but maybe he has to separate it into two sentences.. BigGrin.gif
but that's fine.. if anybody knows what's the right sentence is, then please correct us (including me.. HeHe.gif )
djoedjoer berboedi loehoer
alright than...
carry on childs
ada2 aja
mine is not good enough, especially when talking.
there is lot of "emh" and thinking to find a match word
faiy
not for speaking....
worried.gif
ai.Luvie
QUOTE (faiy @ May 16 2009, 07:46 PM) *
not for speaking....
worried.gif



if it's not for speaking.. then?
for writing or reading part?
TheCriminalCat
hmm.. i think my english is not really good..
but i think i can survive in other country with it..
HeHe.gif
rheinhart
well, if you should ask, i do think my english is fine wherever i go..
been there, done that, and i kinda froze in the early days, but by experience, you learned to speak as well as natives do..
so, no worries there..

cheers!
betra
^^^
awesome you've been there and done that
i do not know yet whether my english has better or just so so
well let's just chat in this tiny blue entity
den aja
QUOTE (ai.Luvie @ May 14 2009, 11:54 PM) *
QUOTE (djoedjoer berboedi loehoer @ May 14 2009, 07:20 PM) *
@den aja
sorry dear,u got work on that language
what is this,a little mess up.it's slippery when we're talking dear not as easy when we're listening or writing
QUOTE
sometimes i think and have a plan to improve for my english pronoucition..



maybe his meaning is that he is sometimes (or many times??) considering to improve his english pronounciation, and then making a plan to improve his english.. i got the meaning actually.. HeHe.gif but maybe he has to separate it into two sentences.. BigGrin.gif
but that's fine.. if anybody knows what's the right sentence is, then please correct us (including me.. HeHe.gif )



thanks.. if my grammar is wrong. plase correct it.. speak_cool.gif
ludiro_inggil
Its must be important..but,its really depend to country destination.
Well..my daily job is making communication with my overseas client through phone call and almost 80% people in eastern (estonia,latvia,lithuania,rusia,slovenia,etc)doesn't speaking English properly.
So..just take it convidence on your's..
coolit
errr im not so sure.. but i knew ppl will understood what im talking about Thinking.gif
djoedjoer berboedi loehoer
than u all
for joining
anyone else ?
pmanassord
hmm, english is an international languague, so to be true its learned by us
Edgar388
it's true
leo2007
SUre. It's the important languange u can count on when u got lost in translation wakakakak !
addictive25
hmm.. I'm doin' fine, but sometimes we don't always understand the message tht we're communicating to others.
yeeaahh
hmm, I think my ability in doing conversation now is quiet improve (from worse to not to bad..he..he)
'cause in my job, sometimes we have to do conversation in english, even with my own indonesian people, especially with expatriate, most of them cann't speak indonesian, only english.
but not to worry, based on my experience dealing with these expatriate (especially france people), their english speaking ability, yeah, we can say not to good, and after short discussion with my friend, working in another PMA company, he found that most of them didn't give a damned about grammar, as long as "you understand what I mean, and I understand what you mean" then all is finish.
FrankUltieShop
i was from singapore, so what i need to afraid ? since i ever do part time in american restaurant, so i living with american for a year,8 hours a day..thats the time i was spend,but i never be better at written,
rexam
language develop through communication.. if u went to usa, then your accent most probably be american accent.. while if u go to england, you accent most probably be british.. so, yes,my english do improve after i go abroad..
spideyheroes
no...but with confidence, it doesn't matter
ShieldOfAthena
QUOTE (djoedjoer berboedi loehoer @ May 15 2009, 08:51 PM) *
alright than...
carry on childs


@TS... i think it would be better like this.. :
"alright then...
carry on children.." haha.gif

back to topic.. axehead.png

i used to be a tour guide and tour leader, and i do really need english both written and spoken BigGrin.gif
and i know that nobody's perfect, even those native speakers may have several grammatical or pronounciation errors chaong.gif
so, if you asked me whether i feel confident to go abroad with my english level, well... i'm gonna say i MUST feel confident , otherwise my tour members might leave me behind ngakak.gif

oh, and a bit confession... usually i speak english best everytime i'm under alcohol influence axehead.png that's what my best friend told me axehead.png axehead.png
EmFeld
well, I'd say perhaps I'll survive in a foreign country that uses English as one of the primary language. Though I feel that my English is so-so, I can still communicate with people smile.gif

regards

-EmFeld-
emang lo siapa?
I'm confident that I can survive in a foreign country cuz I've been sent by my office twice and I managed to get the job done

the thing is, be confident and dont be afraid

good luck in learning guys n gals

ELS
paul gilbert
Yea...why not? Just need more daily and routine practices and everything will be much better and better day by day BigGrin.gif
frankiero
still very bad
west ice
Frankly speaking, I just say what I wanna say while going abroad..
Travelling overseas is one of the most effective way to exercise our English.
Hence I'm pretty confident to do that..

Never worry about the grammar or whatever when going abroad. Just say what I wanna say...

Good luck...

Brgds,

West Ice
super.pekok
I'm very comfort and confident with my "very limited english" although i live in OZ. i think people can understand with our condition. but, if i stuck to make a longer conversation, using a body language is a great help. the most important thing is don't stop learning..

regards
dinoxxx
i think my english is fine, so i fill i will have no problem to communicate to other country .. i can survive with this wink.gif
mulawarman
as long as you can understand your partner talks n good in response,that's enough for going abroad,pals.. except when you're looking for direction n stuff for example,should be clear. european countries only few locals talks in english,canada n caribbean islands english is available. now i'm in mexico so using english with body language is so challenging to do..cheers
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